With Hannah’s big moment with that girl, what were you trying to accomplish?
Konner: Well, you know, the opening scene of the show ever is her being with her parents, being bratty, getting cut off, asking why she needs money, being the ultimate child not ready to grow up, so I think it was just this idea to show in a very Hannah way a final maturation.
Dunham: And I think that girl is being delusional, as Jenni said, in a very similar way to where we found Hannah. So to be able to have sympathy for what the role of a parent is and how stressful and exhausting it is is huge for her.
Konner: We wanted it to say, “Yeah it’s Hannah, but she’s going to be OK with this baby. Don’t worry about the baby.” We didn’t want to end it with someone being like, “Should we call Child Services?”
How do you think Hannah will do as a mom?
Dunham: One the one hand: terrible. But on the other hand: Aren’t most of us dealing with the fact that we have moms who either weren’t ready to be moms or had some level of resentment about it? Everybody is dealing with the different iteration of pain their mom has handed them. I don’t think she’s going to be any worse than anybody else.
Konner: Me, too. I also don’t think she’s the first narcissistic mom in town. So I think she’s going to be great. … She’s not going to be the most traditional mom of all time, but I think she really will be good.
Dunham: And I think Hannah’s displayed, especially over the last couple of seasons, that other people’s comfort matters to her. She doesn’t leave them when it counts. She uses her own strange methods to try to make them feel better. She knows how to nurture, even if it’s not always her first instinct.
Why did you want to center the final episode around Hannah’s baby not being able to breastfeed?
Konner: That was like this weird pressure that mothers are put under, like this idea that if you can’t breastfeed, you’re not doing something properly, or if you choose not to. And so we were interested in just telling that conversation. I think we definitely show both sides of it. I don’t feel that we’re saying, “Now she’s a good mom because she can breastfeed” or something like that. It’s much more the struggle. It’s such a fundamental thing that would make you feel like you’re doing it wrong.
Dunham: A couple people who have seen it, like our editor, were like, “Is this some kind of a statement on ‘Should women breastfeed? Should they not breastfeed?'” And we were like, “We’re the last f—ing people who have a f—ing opinion on what you should do with your body. Anything that makes your day easier, as long as you’re not feeding your baby crack in milk, is really good by us.”